Speaker 1:
From the library of the New York Stock Exchange at the corner of Wall and Broad Streets in New York City, you're Inside The ICE House, our podcast from Intercontinental Exchange on markets, leadership and vision in global business. The dream drivers that have made the NYSE an indispensable institution of global growth for over 225 years. Each week, we feature stories of those who hatch plans, create jobs, and harness the engine of capitalism. Right here, right now at the NYSE and at ICE's 12 exchanges and six clearing houses around the world. And now welcome Inside The ICE House. Here's your host, Josh King of Intercontinental Exchange.
Josh King:
If my calendar is right, this episode of Inside The ICE House is hitting your podcast feed on Monday, July 1st, plenty of time for you to download it and play it in the car as you're heading off for the July 4th weekend. The holiday we celebrate 243 years after the 56 representatives to the Second Continental Congress affixed their names to The Declaration of Independence in Philadelphia. Many of those who work here at the New York Stock Exchange will likely be making their way east to the Hamptons or the North fork of Long Island. And depending on traffic on 495, three or four of our episodes will get you from Manhattan to the Shelter Island Ferry, assuming that Waze vectors you in the right direction.
Josh King:
But a growing number of urban dwellers will be heading North by Amtrak or the New York State Throughway to a series of hamlets that dot the Hudson river all the way up to Albany. Places like Reinbeck, Kingston, Saugerties, Woodstock and Hudson, all of which are enjoying a sort of Renaissance as people rediscover the many attributes of the river and mountain towns that once attracted all manner of city escapees. A return to the migration that drew them up for centuries before air conditioning and airlines kept them anchored indoors or on flights to parts unknown.
Josh King:
Here's a thought. Head north, but keep driving a bit further. Making your way west into the Catskills where my wife and I spent a lot of time during the year. The mountain range made famous by Washington Irving in Rip Van Winkle. First published in 1819 about the man who slumbered in those hills and woke up 20 years later to see the American revolution had passed him by. Go up to the Catskills today and you find hundreds of aisles of pristine biking trails and hiking trails, some of the best fishing in the world, terrific golf courses, and some really great skiing, which we do every weekend from Thanksgiving through March in Windham. It's enough to work up a huge appetite for which the Catskills offers an ever-growing list of farm to table restaurants.
Josh King:
And it's also enough to work up a tremendous thirst. If you're like me, that thirst is quenched by beer, albeit with a designated driver. The Crossroads Brewing company in Athens, Westkill Brewing in Westkill, and Honey Hollow Brewing in Earlton are three among many at the top of my list. Another one soon to join my circuit is Faith American, owned and operated by someone whose name you know. Even if it might be as one of the guys sitting in Sam Malone's bar on the common in Boston. Yes, Frasier Crane, the psychiatrist first made famous by Kelsey Grammar in seasons three through 11 in Glen and Les Charles's and James Burrow's monumental 275 episode show, Cheers, where we all know everybody knows your name.
Josh King:
I suspect that when Faith American opens its tasting room in the days ahead, everybody will know your name as well. If you make the trip up to Margaretville just down New York 28 from Belleayre Ski Area where my friends, Nick Seaward and Julian Derick will rent you their fabulous Pine Hill Farmhouse via Airbnb. They'll even fill the fridge up with a growler of Faith American for you once Kelsey gets his brewery brewing at full speed. Our conversation with Kelsey Grammar on work and beer, the land that nurtures it's ingredients and the mountains that make it great, right after this.
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Josh King:
We usually have CEOs, Silicon valley investors, government leaders, and bestselling authors on our podcast here Inside The ice House. This is our first show with an Emmy winner, a Golden Globe winner or a Tony Award winner. And I'm pretty sure that we'll never have someone who's won five Primetime Emmy's, three Golden Globes and a Tony sitting with us at the New York Stock Exchange. Come on, I don't need to introduce Kelsey Grammar to you. Frasier Crane and cheers and Frasier, Mayor Tom Kane in Boss, Professor Henry Higgins in the revival of My Fair Lady. And most recently after filmography and theatrical resume, way too prolific to even try to further summarize, Don Quixote in the London Coliseum's production of Man of la Mancha. That's why we know and love Kelsey Grammar, but we're here today to talk about what we don't know Mr. Grammar for, beer and his affinity for a region of New York that we both call home, the Catskills. Welcome to the ICE House, sir.
Kelsey Grammar:
Thank you very much.
Josh King:
First, tell me what brings you to the New York Stock Exchange, and your experience here?
Kelsey Grammar:
Well, I've got a good friend that's been doing some of the work for me with Faith American. He is good friends with Dan who is...
Josh King:
Dan Tremble.
Kelsey Grammar:
A trader fellow.
Josh King:
Yeah.
Kelsey Grammar:
And they invited me down to the floor to check things out and see how it would go, and Monday we go public.
Josh King:
Bob Airo was telling you how that'll actually work when the time actually comes.
Kelsey Grammar:
Right.
Josh King:
I know you played banker Sir Charles Bunbury in Breaking the Bank. So that should qualify you as a financial advisor, but as you walked on the floor here, did you get any new insights into the financial system that almost broke the bank 10 years ago?
Kelsey Grammar:
Yes. Well, it is still pretty much a mystery to me. I'm very impressed, but I have no shorthand with the financial world. I however, enjoy the people, I love the energy of it. The excitement about the idea of what can possibly happen on the floor is pretty extraordinary. We saw the little bump that happened when the president tweeted today.
Josh King:
On China.
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah, it's a fascinating sort of litmus test for whatever it goes on in the world. You see it has an effect here. Hopefully one day, we're just selling beer and all the guys here are having them.
Josh King:
Kelsey, I've heard you talk about the many years that you've spent working in New York from your first days at the Julliard to your most recent project here, you talk about it as a town where it's great to be rich or great to be very poor, not really great to be in the middle.
Kelsey Grammar:
Tough in the middle.
Josh King:
Yeah.
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah. It's tougher in the middle.
Josh King:
And these guys are all working people, on the floor.
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah, it's harder here than anywhere else for that, I think. I think if you are really, really poor and you have any kind of curiosity about things, or if you just read a newspaper or just check on the internet, what might be free that day, you will see some of the most extraordinary things you'll ever have a chance to see in New York City. And if you fall into that sort of financial scale, you can go for free. If you're really rich, it doesn't matter. But there aren't that many people that are in that heady atmosphere.
Josh King:
Your earlier days, you just used to walk into the Metropolitan Museum of Art just because that was the easiest, free attraction there was.
Kelsey Grammar:
Every day. Yeah, every day, I was a student I could walk in and I took great advantage of it. I found great inspiration there. A view of Toledo, El Greco's painting, the American wing, the paintings there. I was inspired by that all the time. And I always had a sense of comfort in it, that expression does have a destiny. And that art actually has an application in our society that's actually alive and breathing and well. And I thought, if I could just get lucky enough.
Josh King:
Certainly Thomas Cole and the Hudson River School must have inspired all of those years and days that you spent up in the mountains?
Kelsey Grammar:
Absolutely. Every one of them. I love the Hudson River School, it's fantastic. If only I could make the beer successful, I might actually buy one.
Josh King:
Well and again, before we get to the beer and the Catskills, I just want to catch our listeners up a little bit on what you're working on now, if that's all right?
Kelsey Grammar:
Sure.
Josh King:
I talked about the stuff that you could listen to on this long ride out of town, I didn't mention that they could absorb a classic. The Time Machine by HG Wells. How does audible book narration fit into the life of an upstate gentleman farmer like you?
Kelsey Grammar:
Oh, well, I'm well read. I'm not the best read guy I've ever known, but I've read some pretty serious books in my time. I have not done a lot of the reading aloud stuff with audible, but I've got a new book that I sort of came up with the concept for that I'll be recording pretty soon that was written by a terrific writer that will remain nameless until we get to the point where we go ahead and make the release of it. So I'll be recording another book pretty soon. But HG Wells was fantastic, I just spent eight hours in the room in front of a microphone and read through it. It's a fairly short book, but it's lovely.
Josh King:
You did that here in the city, or in the studio?
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah, that was here in the city. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. And I think audible is terrific, man. When I was kicked out of Julliard, John Houseman said to me, "Read the great novels." He said, "You'll never understand certain worlds that you'll be asked to portray if you don't have a sort of a foundation and an experience that comes from those great books." Because we can't possibly go back to 1800 or 1600 or wherever we're going to go.
Josh King:
And then I think I heard when you were talking about the other day or on a previous interview, that Passage to India is your go-to for sort of, that kind of transportation?
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah, that's one of my favorite books. Yeah.
Josh King:
When I shared with my team about a year and a half ago that we would call this show Inside the ICE House, I could have told them that it was an homage to James Lipton and Inside the Actor's Studio on Bravo, but it might have left them scratching their heads. And now comes news that you'll be joining Jane Lynch and Alec Baldwin carrying on Lipton's series on Ovation.
Kelsey Grammar:
We are doing that this evening with James Burrows who directed all of the shows of Cheers and has done so many others. He is an icon, and so I'm going to be interviewing him this evening in front of the Actor's Studio Audience, and carrying on the tradition of James Lipton.
Josh King:
So, a lot of prep for that? It's a very different role for you, all those blue cards that you...
Kelsey Grammar:
No no, we didn't do the blue card thing.
Josh King:
Okay.
Kelsey Grammar:
I've got some notes, I'm going to ask some questions. We have a lot of personal history together. We'll probably get into venting a little bit of that and asking some technical questions about directing, but mostly about living and how we've related for the last 40 years. It'll be fun.
Josh King:
David Milch summoned the creativity to bring Deadwood cast back to life 10 years older as South Dakota was about to get its statehood. After 264 episodes of Frasier, which parted company with us 14 years ago in 2004, is there a scenario in which Dr. Crane might be found perhaps with a shingle hanging outside an office in Reinbeck somewhere?
Kelsey Grammar:
I'm not sure upstate New York enters into it, but it could.
Josh King:
Bob Newhart did it with Newhart in Vermont, right?
Kelsey Grammar:
Right. We have a few new ideas that we're kicking around in hopes of reviving the series, but actually starting a third act, basically.
Josh King:
Yeah.
Kelsey Grammar:
Another piece of his life. And there's some interest and so we'll see if somebody's willing to pay for it, and then we'll start writing it.
Josh King:
I heard one interview earlier, you said that you no more wanted to revisit Dr. Crane as wanting to watch another episode of Sex in the City, but you've had a little turn of heart?
Kelsey Grammar:
I have. I saw some of the success of the other shows that have been rebooted, basically. I think the character of Frasier has another story he can tell. That's all. And I wouldn't want to try to do the same locale, the same surroundings, the same house, none of that, or apartment. It has to be that he grew up, that he changed, something took place that made him more interesting or interesting again, and that's what we're going to work on.
Josh King:
That's great. One of my indelible memories growing up in Boston was the visit of Richard Kylie bringing his role of Don Quixote and Man of la Mancha to the Theater District way back in the seventies. And you revived Quixote in London this year, along with Danielle de Niese. And I want to hear a little bit of a beautiful preview clip from your recording sessions that I found last night, because it brought back so many memories for me.
Kelsey Grammar:
(Singing).
Danielle de Niese:
(Singing).
Kelsey Grammar:
Very cool.
Josh King:
Oh, it's amazing. I think of the 1967 Boston Red Sox for which was called The Impossible Dream Season.
Kelsey Grammar:
That's right.
Josh King:
But you've talked about this song as such a North Star for you and it was a challenging production, but the ability to sing that every night and through matinees.
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah, it was amazing. It is one of the greatest songs ever written. I got better at it, and it was always challenging. But if there's something about it, it has such power, this song. People started crying in the middle of the song, they were just weeping at the end of the first act. And it was just a marvelous thing to get to do. And you know of challenges, hell, productions are always challenged. But we had the best time doing it. And I would love to try to sing it again somewhere.
Josh King:
Well, we could reopen the Galleycoochey Theater on Main Street in Margaretville and make a nice little opera house out of that.
Kelsey Grammar:
There you go. Just do it right there. Yeah, we'll see.
Josh King:
So Kelsey, Don Quixote is this middle aged gentleman from the region of la Mancha in central Spain. He's obsessed with chivalrous ideals touted in books that he's read. He decides to take up this lance and sword to defend the hapless and destroy the wicked. I look at the image on the website of Faith American Beer, and considering of what I know about the Catskills, I can't help but think that there's a similar quest involved.
Kelsey Grammar:
Well, that is a really well done segue, very impressed. My idea, I bought some land there 26 years ago. I grew up having Thanksgiving in Kingston, New York at my granddad's best friend's house. I went every year for several years when I was a young man. To me, it's the most special place in the world. The Catskills hold a dear place in my heart. And they have fallen on really hard times, especially Delaware County, where my place is. I just always thought if I could come up with an idea that would breathe some more life into it, give it a little commerce, give it a little shot in the arm, give the people a little pride around. I don't know if it's going to do that for all the people there, but I think they'll be able to still point to this mountaintop and go, "Hey, that's where he's making his beer up there."
Kelsey Grammar:
And there's a few other guys doing the same thing around. The land I have used to be a really successful cauliflower farm and a successful dairy farm. And it has slowly but surely been gut punched by the economy, by New York city. New York City, honestly, really doesn't like people living in the Catskills because that's where their water comes from, so they'd rather not have people there at all.
Josh King:
Your reservoir?
Kelsey Grammar:
Exactly.
Josh King:
Right next door.
Kelsey Grammar:
Exactly. And so we're going to need to find a way to coexist peacefully. The venture is a dream of mine about doing something nice for the world. Make a nice beer, drinkable, not blow your taste buds out of your mouth with such a hoppy finish that you can't think, not make it too alcoholic content, we're about 4.85. It's a refreshing way to spend some time with some friends and drink something nice and do something hopefully for the community.
Josh King:
The website says Faith American Brewing Company was founded in 2015 as the first step towards a dream that is decades old. So first the name, Faith American?
Kelsey Grammar:
Faith American comes from of course, that I love America. And my daughter's name is Faith. But inside my wedding ring, my wife had inscribed Live By Faith. And it's something before, I think we always knew that if we had a girl, our first child would be named Faith. It's an active, energetic lifestyle, to have faith. And so we think it actually translates well into a beer and translates really well into the idea of still having faith in America. Because we're all going to be okay, we've just got to keep fighting the good fight.
Josh King:
You write somewhat poetically on the website, "Cuts through dust, cuts through a hard day's work, refreshes, slakes a thirst and concerns of the day when the day is done." What was your initial connection with beer? Does it go back to Kingston and those Thanksgivings, or where does beer come from in Kelsey Grammar's world?
Kelsey Grammar:
Honestly, the first beers that I really enjoyed were I was about 18 years old and it was legal to drink beer at that time. But I was working in demolition and we were swinging hammers, basically knocking down a interior remodel of a hotel in Palm...
Josh King:
Palm Beach? Yeah.
Kelsey Grammar:
Palm Beach. Yeah. I was thinking Palm Springs.
Josh King:
The old Fort Lauderdale days.
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah, right. And there was nothing better, and I'm going to say the name, but than a really ice cold bottle of Bud then.
Josh King:
Oh, absolutely. We've had the Bud people right in this chair where you are talking about some of their New Reserve Lagers.
Kelsey Grammar:
It was a great experience. And I would always say to friends, I'd say Budweiser, I'd say, "Well just have one ice cold after you've been swinging, you've got construction dust inside your lungs." It was the best thing in the world. So this is, our beer is not that, but it is a really flavorful ale with a nice little hoppy finish, and I'm very, very proud of it.
Josh King:
So I've seen some pictures of the barn, I read a story of your trip up to Schenectady to the bar that's serving it. I know it's hard to start a business, even if you're Kelsey Grammar and get beer flowing through an assembly line, where does this actually stand?
Kelsey Grammar:
We're in a relationship now with a contract brewer as we're building out the brewery on our site, we're going to introduce three or four more beers in the next six to seven months, but we're starting with the ale because I think that's the flagship. And of course the ale will probably be used to do the sours that I really, really want to do. And those will be on site in the barn, in the barrels and stuff like that. Because there's a great sort of rustic feel to that culture, the craft culture. And we want to make sure we sort of tick all the boxes in that world. For now, Faith American Ale will be brewed in Schenectady and we will probably maintain that relationship for quite a while. I hope to, because I don't want to dump anybody if they're doing a good job, we're all going to do well together.
Josh King:
I've seen the first batch come out in cans. Are you going to do bottles? What's the plan for packaging?
Kelsey Grammar:
Do you know what? Packaging is cans and cans are of course the forward thinking package these days.
Josh King:
Yeah.
Kelsey Grammar:
We have a bottle designed, but I haven't gone ahead with it because everybody says, "Well, why would you have a bottle anymore?" So, but you never know, there may be a day.
Josh King:
If folks come up to the tasting room in Margaretville you going to serve them in growlers? Are you going to pull a tap? Are you going to do kegs?
Kelsey Grammar:
Tap.
Josh King:
Yeah.
Kelsey Grammar:
Tap, kegs. Yeah. Yeah.
Josh King:
At what point might that tasting room be open? Because I don't know if it's ready for July 4th, but I've got my Jeep CJ7 in Windham, I'm ready to drive down.
Kelsey Grammar:
Somewhere before August 1st.
Josh King:
All right. So Margaretville, population 596 in the 2010 census. Chancellor Robert Livingston, a drafter of The Declaration of Independence divided about 200,000 acres among his family. How did you get your place there? How did you find it?
Kelsey Grammar:
I was looking through the DuPont Registry. And the last page has those sort of all those distressed properties where you think, oh, nobody's ever going to buy this. It's like the last hope of property that's been on the market for decades. And I saw this one near Kingston, trout fishing, hunting, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm not a hunter, but I don't have an issue with people who do. This land was a couple hundred acres and near a ski resort, Belleayre. And it just was exactly what I wanted. It's what I dreamed of my whole life. So I flew up on a helicopter.
Josh King:
What year is this?
Kelsey Grammar:
This is 1994.
Josh King:
Okay. Wow.
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, '94. And I bought it and my not quite ex-wife at that time screamed, she couldn't stand the thought of it. And I said, "Good."
Josh King:
So did you rebuild the structure there or?
Kelsey Grammar:
I've rebuilt almost everything there. The barn's the next big thing, that's a big project because it was built for cows.
Josh King:
Yeah.
Kelsey Grammar:
So, there's certain loads on the roof and stuff like that. You have to pass a different set of very stringent code to get some people in it. So we've got work to do.
Josh King:
So we're looking around up there 2010, 2011. And in the middle of the process up in Windham here comes hurricane Irene, August 2011.
Kelsey Grammar:
Oh, yeah. Irene.
Josh King:
And flattens Windham under six feet of water. Prattsville has never come back. Margaretville is hit really hard.
Kelsey Grammar:
Big hit in Margaretville. Yeah.
Josh King:
And that's a lot of what your dream is too, to replace some of the industry that had been up there that was completely decimated. But to draw these tourists back because they are being drawn back, I see it every weekend.
Kelsey Grammar:
It seems to be happening now. They wrote this article for the last 30 years. "Oh, the Hamptons is over. Everybody's going upstate up to the Catskills." It never really happened. But this last couple of years you see some activity, you see some life up there. And it's really heartening for me.
Josh King:
The creative scene in the Hudson River Valley. You said on your episode of Desert Island Discs that two of the songs that you'd have with you are Fly Me To The Moon by Frank Sinatra and All Along The Watch Tower by Jimi Hendrix. And so appropriate too, that Sinatra made his name playing in the Borscht Belt, places of the Catskills. And Hendrix certainly brought the place alive 50 years ago in August at Woodstock. Do you get out to see much of the local music scene and see these creatives coming to life?
Kelsey Grammar:
Well, yeah, I see it around. I'm very, very aware of it. David Bowie was up there, I was a huge fan of his and apparently his daughter is still kind of in love with the land up there. He had a lot of things in mind. And Todd Rundgren is still up there and I love that. And the guy, Donald Faigen is still there, with Steely Dan. So you hear about it guys kicking in or doing a concert over at Utopia, which is in Woodstock. And of course the farm, Yasgur's Farm, I guess, has been transformed into Bethel Woods, which is a venue now for rock and roll, so.
Josh King:
So as you come back to the city from the Catskills, you can't get away from real life that faces you when you're walking into the floor of the New York Stock Exchange and you see CNBC on, and the president tweets about potentially a breakthrough with President Xi of China and the market ticks up and the market ticks down on for other reasons. And we can't get away from the issues that we're facing. Just today, the president announced that his acting secretary of defense would be stepping down. And you've never shied away from taking on ripped from the headlines issues in your dramatic roles. One of those that I remember seeing you in was The Pentagon Wars opposite Cary Elwes and directed by Richard Benjamin. It was a comedy, but it hit at the real issue of how military procurement has always challenged the Defense Department in Congress to do the right thing.
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah. In that we were talking about the Bradley assault vehicle, I think? Yeah, right.
Josh King:
The Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle.
Kelsey Grammar:
Infantry Fighting Vehicle. The Bradley apparently was a really grotesque over expenditure of the taxpayer's money. I don't know how they develop weapons. I remember once I was sitting in Alexandria, Virginia, this is when I was shooting Washington.
Josh King:
Yeah.
Kelsey Grammar:
This is about George Washington, and I played his agitant in the French Indian war. And I sat down next to a fellow at a bar and I said, "Hey man, how are you doing? Blah, blah, blah." And we started talking and I said, "What do you do in town? Probably a government job?" And he said, "I design weapon systems." And we started, I thought, okay, that's fascinating to me. And I said that Ronald Reagan had not really talked about Star Wars yet, but I asked him what he was working on lately. And I said, "So, how much of it's real? How much do you really do that's real? How much do you spend?" And he said, "Well, mostly we just make up stuff and try to release it and scare people." And I thought, yeah, that makes sense to me.
Kelsey Grammar:
The Bradley Fighting Vehicle, I think was somebody's pet baby and maybe they spent too much money on it. And just once they were in, they just had to keep going. I think it's always refreshing when government actually has a chance clean itself out a little bit. One of the reasons I was sort of in favor of Donald Trump winning instead of Hilary Clinton was basically because I thought, dear God, we've already been down that road. Let's try another one, even if it's a little uncomfortable or even if he's a little bit crass at times, I was all for just let's kick it in the teeth.
Josh King:
You certainly drive around the highways around Margaretville and Windham and upstate, and you walk in the Walmart at Catskill, and they are making America great again, in their view.
Kelsey Grammar:
They sure are.
Josh King:
You're currently filming The God Committee, which explores the US organ transplant system. The movie follows a donor heart being flown to a New York hospital where a transplant committee has an hour to decide which patient is the recipient. How did you get attracted in that script?
Kelsey Grammar:
Yeah, pretty fascinating. Well, they sent it to me and they wanted me to play, they sent it with an offer to play the priest who's an advisor for one of the investors in the hospital, or one of the donors to the hospital. And I thought, if you guys can see your way clear, I'd rather play this part. So I ended up playing the doctor who is developing this technology to grow human organs in other species, and then to harvest them and put the them into people. So it kind of cuts out the whole need for donor hearts. So it tracks his progress with that, his own decline in health because he actually has a heart condition, and then this particular heart being put into another person. And it's a fascinating script, I really enjoyed shooting it, we shot it in about two weeks. And we'll see how it goes, I haven't heard anything about the first cut yet, so.
Josh King:
I follow politics pretty closely upstate, I'm registered to vote in Green County. The 19th district just elected its first Democrat in a long time when Antonio Delgado defeated John Fasso, which ended a GOP string that included Chris Gibson and Nan Hayworth before that. You've hinted, Kelsey, at running for office in the past. Any chance once the brewery starts attracting people to the tasting room that you'll use that as a Hyde Park corner and start thinking about running for the 19th?
Kelsey Grammar:
I don't think so, no. But I used to think about getting into service in that way, but we'll see. We'll see how Mr. Delgado does for us.
Josh King:
I loved Boss when it was airing on Starz for two seasons and you were Chicago mayor Tom Kane.
Kelsey Grammar:
I want you to run for governor against Matt Cullen in the primary. I want you to come at him from his wing and hammer with all you've got.
Speaker 4:
What makes you think I'd want to do that?
Kelsey Grammar:
Oh, come on, you've been chewing at him for three months straight. Two Sunday op eds, one in The Sentinel, one in The Sun Times. Six appearances on local television, three on cable, and your speech is at Northwestern, Archer Daniels Midland and Lou Mitchell's Diner. If I didn't know better, I'd say that you've been contriving this face to face, even before me because the only thing you're missing is heft. Here I am.
Josh King:
Here's heft, Kelsey. It sounds like you're ready to serve right now.
Kelsey Grammar:
We'll see. Yeah. I love that word, heft. I hadn't read it in a long time when we did that scene. That was a lot of fun.
Josh King:
If any of the candidates were holding their announcement on Main Street in Margaretville to its 596 citizens, any of these 23 Democrats running for the nomination or President Trump running for reelection, what would they have to say that would really earn their vote in a place like that where industry and opportunity has flown south like the current and the Hudson river?
Kelsey Grammar:
Well, I think they'd say what Hillary Clinton said when she was a New York Senator, that she was going to restore a hundred thousand jobs. I'm going to try to restore 10.
Josh King:
10 jobs will get the brewery going.
Kelsey Grammar:
That will get it going.
Josh King:
As we wrap up, Kelsey Grammar, in the final episode of Frasier back in 2004, you close on a passage from Ulysses by Alfred, Lord Tennyson. I want to take a listen.
Kelsey Grammar:
The only reason I'm leaving is because I want what all of you have now, a new chapter. Who knows if it'll even work out, but it's like that Tennyson poem mom had us recite for you when we were kids, do you remember?
John Mahoney:
I think we're about to.
Kelsey Grammar:
It may be the gulfs will wash us down. It may be we shall touch the happy isles. And though we are not now that strength, which in old days moved earth and heaven. That which we are, we are. Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will. To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Josh King:
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. That sounds very much like a roadmap for the Catskills and for Faith American Beer. Thanks so much for joining us, Kelsey Grammar, Inside The ICE House.
Josh King:
That's our conversation for this week. Our guest was Kelsey Grammar, actor, director, producer, and now brewer of Faith American Beer in Margaretville, New York. If you like, what you heard, please rate us on iTunes so other folks know where to find us. And if you've got a comment or question you'd like one of our experts to tackle on a future show, email us at [email protected] or tweet at us @ICEhousePodcast. Our show is produced by Theresa DeLuca and Pete Ash with production and editing from Ken Abel and Steve Romanshek. I'm Josh King, your host, signing off from the Library of the New York Stock Exchange. Thanks for listening, have faith everyone, and enjoy and reflect this July 4th weekend. We'll talk to you next week.
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